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Let us now praise famous men and our fathers that begat us |
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========== Let us now praise famous men and our fathers that begat us "Let us now praise famous men" is a verse from the Wisdom of Sirach, recognized as canonical scripture by some and not others. The phrase has been associated with a choral work by Ralph Vaughan Williams and a book by Agee and Evans. I first heard the phrase in a church service about 1970 when the congregation was supposed to sing a hymn by that name - with music by Vaughan Williams. It was chromatic and challenging and by the end of the second line the congregation has given up and the choir had to carry on to the end with faint praise. Famous men have not been doing so well lately, even to the extent of faint praise, as the shortcomings of living men, particularly in relationship to women, have become much more common knowledge, and the shortcomings of those long gone have become more widely examined, particularly in relationship to slavery. How should we evaluate them? The Army can revoke your medals if it wouldn't have awarded them knowing what it now knows. But it seems to me that just as somebody's good accomplishments do not negate bad ones, it follows that bad accomplishments do not negate good ones. Thus LBJ had lots of faults, but he was the southerner who finally broke the back of segregation by getting the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts passed. His political muscle nicely complemented Martin Luther King's moral muscle to accomplish what neither could do alone - and television journalism came along at just the right time to provide an essential technological boost. Thus Theodore Roosevelt was a racist imperialist, but he was also the first president to understand that monopoly power was anti-democratic, and that natural and historic resources should be preserved even when Congress won't act, and more than that, he took action to both those ends. And so on - with Martin Luther, George Washington, Alexander Hamilton, Thomas Jefferson, Franklin Roosevelt, John Kennedy, even Warren Harding - even Garrison Keillor - great and good things accomplished by people who also believed and did other things that embarrass us today. It seems that good and bad have to be borne in mind together. Mindless beatification and mindless demonization are both destructive. In particular, idolatry of great people, to the extent of denying their flaws, sets them apart from ordinary people, and gives ordinary people an excuse: "I'll never be as good as them so why bother?" But every good accomplishment was accomplished by a sinner. For some the sins were commensurate with the good, and for others not, but all are under the same sentences of original sin/evolutionary competition, and eventually death, so there is always a fearful and greedy motivation to accomplish whatever one intends, for good or ill, while one still can. Christians at least are called to forgiveness, particularly if the offender repents. Thus a crippled George Wallace repented near the end of his life, sought forgiveness from black Alabamans, and received it: "joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance." That does not mean that sex offenders get access to children at church, nor embezzlers to money at church. But maybe one can relax a bit about embezzlers coaching sports and sex offenders keeping the books. Trust, and verify. In a way, it's not unlike other kinds of discrimination: reducing the applicant pool for a particular job, for reasons that have no bearing on the job, is just putting the employer at a disadvantage relative to his competitors. Including applicants in the pool for a particular job, for reasons that have no bearing on the job - and ignoring reasons that do have bearing on the job - is even worse. So in the end, maybe the name of the hymn needs to be "Let us now praise famous good deeds." Hate the bad deed, but still love the sinner and the good deed. ===== comments 1 dwordrate 0 hide 1 likeimpress 41 negative 1 posted 2017-12-28 rate 0 ratio 6 react 56 rwordrate 3 sumclicks 13 title Let us now praise famous men and our fathers that begat us topic other words 676 ID 556364348041422 URL https://www.facebook.com/politicalscrapbooknet/posts/556364348041422 audclicks 13 audreach 11 bimpress 346 blikeimpress 15 blikeusers 13 breach 330 commentsimpress 1 commentsusers 1 engaged 49 hideclicks 1 hideclicksusers 1 impress 415 likeclickusers 3 likeimpress 41 likeuimpress 76 likeusers 39 likeuusers 41 matchedotherclicks 13 negclicks 1 negusers 1 oimpress 69 oreach 33 posted "12/28/2017 12:05:42 PM" postotherclicks 11 reach 362 type Status budget 20 budgettype Lifetime cadname "Post: ""Let us now praise famous men and our fathers that...""" ccleantitle Let us now praise famous men and our fathers that cclicksall 48 ccpcall 0.41666667 cdelivery not_delivering cend 2018-06-30 cimpressions 346 conversionrank - cost 0.52631578947368 cpm 57.80346821 creach 330 cstart 2018-04-01 ctrall 13.87283237 ecomments 1 ends 2018-06-03 engagedrank - epagelikes 1 ereact 37 frequency 1.0484848484848 indicator actions:post_engagement qualityrank - results 38 spent 20 ========== The evolutionary competition that was often helpful when it was man against predatory animal, became less often helpful when it became man against man of another tribe, and has become completely unhelpful - in fact insanely disastrous - when one man can wipe out his whole species. That's one of the points made in the book The Chalice and the Blade. And it's part of the thesis of the liberty-and-justice.net site: some degree of cooperation had better supplant competition before everybody has the means and motivation to blow everybody else up. ===== comments 1 dwordrate 3 negative 0 posted 2017-11-14 rate 0 ratio 2 react 2 rwordrate 0 sumclicks 1 title The evolutionary competition that was often helpful when topic other words 91 ID 537231469954710 URL https://www.facebook.com/politicalscrapbooknet/posts/537231469954710 audclicks 1 audreach 1 commentsimpress 1 commentsusers 1 engaged 2 impress 23 likeclickusers 1 likeuimpress 9 likeuusers 3 matchedotherclicks 1 oimpress 23 oreach 5 posted "11/14/2017 08:38:47 PM" postotherclicks 1 reach 5 type Status